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1) In the immediate aftermath of the Cylon Attack, Kendra is able to find the trap-doors the Cylons hid inside the code of the CMP program while she's concussed, short of sleep, and busy getting the computers back online.  She'd need to be incredibly lucky just to stumble onto the right lines of code (out of the millions that must make up the whole package), and combine it with a flash of true inspiration to see the offending sections for what they were.  This is, after all, the same hidden code that none of the human programmers, including boy-genius Gaius Baltar, discovered during the months of development.  That sort of incredible insight into computer code makes sense if she's a Cylon.

2) When Kendra goes to the galley to sneak a fix from whatever is in the hypodermic she hid in the coffee can, she first tunes the radio to static, which sounds just like the static to which Colonel Tigh listens, from which All Along The Watchtower emerges, at the end of season 3.  She doesn't say what she's seeking in the static, and maybe she doesn't even know, but the behavior parallels that of Sam, Tory and Tigh at the end of season 3.

3) When Kendra speaks with the Cylon Hybrid at the end of Razor, it tells her to warn the other humans about Kara Thrace.  Kendra radios the Pegasus, and says that she has to warn them about Kara.  Then the Cylons jam the transmission, before Kendra can pass on anything else that she's heard.  Why would the apparently prophetic Hybrid do that?  (The other Cylons worship and obey the Hybrid, so if it didn't want them to jam the signals, they wouldn't.)  It would be stupid to give her a warning to share and then prevent her from sharing it...unless it knew she'd be around later, perhaps resurrected in some way.  (If it can work for Kara, it can work for Kendra.)

4) While this doesn't play off of specific events in Razor, picking Kendra for the final Cylon has the advantage of not messing with any more of the regular characters while, at the same time, giving us a character that we know, so that the revelation has some emotional impact when it, at last, comes.

The one compelling counter-argument based on in-show information (as opposed to arguments arising from a sense that it must be some other character) is that Kendra comes from a prominent family and that her recently-deceased mother was a prominent legislator.  However, if a famous athlete, who was no doubt the subject of fannish biographies and journalistic histories, can nevertheless turn out to be a Cylon, I don't see what a senator's daughter can't be, as well.  (I do wonder how it would have worked, and my guess is that the Final Five must have been changelings, swapped for real human children in infancy.)

EDIT: Reason #5) If it is Kendra, it would explain why only four of the final five activated during the battle of the nebula, with the crappy music: being dead, she wasn't around to hear it. There are other ways to account for missing fifth Cylon, but this has the advantage of simplicity, logic, and not requiring any further information than what has already been revealed.

Date: 2008-04-17 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] millari.livejournal.com
Ok, well, even though I hate to admit that there's a compelling argument for Kendra being a Cylon, I have to admit that I'm more persuaded than I was before. You round up some interesting details in support of your case.

If you end up being right, try not to gloat too much, eh? ;)

Date: 2008-04-17 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdwritere.livejournal.com
I never gloat.

Well, hardly ever.

Date: 2008-05-04 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i think she will not be final cylon because six said in 4x01 (i think) than final five is close than she can feel them

A fifth reason:

Date: 2008-06-02 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdwritere.livejournal.com
If it is Kendra, it would explain why only four of the final five activated during the battle of the nebula, with the crappy music: being dead, she wasn't around to hear it.

If it is Kendra...

Date: 2008-08-11 07:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Then why did D'Ana (#3) say sorry when she saw the face of the final cylon (I'm assuming it was the final cylon)?

D'Ana never had any interaction with Kendra.

Although you had a point about the static thing.

I think a little exploration on the possibility that the final cylon would be Elen Tigh.

The cylons made her a spy and eventually got herself killed << a good reason for the apology D'Ana made.

Elen and Saul were married for many years and still she never had children despite having an affair with half the colonial fleet.

She appeared out of nowhere without any recollection of how she got rescued.

Gaius ran a blood test on her. He declared her "human" like he did with Boomer. But when imaginary 6 asked her what the results truly were, he said something like... "I'll never tell".

Re: If it is Kendra...

Date: 2008-08-11 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdwritere.livejournal.com
Ellen Tigh is another good candidate. In fact, I do think she's a Cylon... just not the Last Cylon. I think she's actually a Six, just one that's aged a few decades, perhaps had some minor surgical alteration, and some false memories implanted. I don't know why this would have been done, but it's no more preposterous than her husband Saul turning out to be a Cylon.

Also, we don't know to which of the Final Five D'Anna apologized. I think it was Anders, because she nearly crushed his head on Caprica. Saul Tigh would be a good bet, too, for having his eye ripped out.

Re: If it is Kendra...

Date: 2008-08-21 10:54 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
The first 2 are utterly circumstantial. The show spent a good deal of time convincing us just how good Kendra is-ambitious, ruthless, extremely intelligent, and setting us up to believe she'll go far. I don't think her finding a technical back-door is anything to get all excited about.

Re: If it is Kendra...

Date: 2008-08-22 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdwritere.livejournal.com
Well, these are hints, you see. Subtle clues from the creators (if I'm right) to suggest the truth, without giving the game away too early.
From: [identity profile] stef-incognito.livejournal.com
I LOVE your reasoning about Kendra being the final cylon.

D'anna knows the identities of the final 5, and she has said that the fifth is not within the fleet. That fits Kendra... especially since she was a pivotal character in Razor, and had an interesting duality going on with Kara. Also, Kara came back from the dead, why not Kendra?

Another idea is that since every member of the final 5 so far have seemed to be a guardian of someone important. Wouldn't it also be logical for Pegasus to have a guardian as well? Because she did protect Cain, she did save Kara from death on the first basestar... but she also discovered Kara's true identity from the first hybrid.

She also was a tortured character, because of the people the she killed on the ship that they raided. The hybrid said “And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering.” He asked Kendra if she wished to be forgiven... she certainly was seeking redemption.

Seems to me that Kendra has more in store for her... She was significant, she isn't in the fleet, and she was a guardian of Pegasus while being juxtaposed with Kara.

The idea of Ellen being an "aged" 6 is also very intriguing. After all, she has the sensuality of a 6, and certainly the ability to manipulate; she manipulated Tigh the same way head 6 manipulated Baltar. She also appeared to Sol as Caprica 6 on Galactica when he begin to form a relationship with her. Its a weird stretch... but why not?
From: [identity profile] wyrdwritere.livejournal.com
I hadn't paid any attention to the First Hybrid's prophecies (they struck me as bad storytelling and felt jarringly out of place in the otherwise excellent Razor). That said, hungry for redemption does sound like Kendra. And the idea of guardianship interests me. Who or what are the other four supposed to guard? Kendra as Cain's guardian makes some sense. She'd have stopped Gina from shooting her, I bet.

Thank you for commenting. And welcome to Livejournal.

Date: 2008-11-20 05:41 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes the old hybrid did mention that the 5th was "seeking redemption". So Kendra could very well fit the bill.

But I've read an article last month (forgot where) wherein Aaron Douglas spilled the beans and told in an interview that the 13th tribe were actually Cylons. And that the final 5 went back to the colonies after Earth's destruction to find out about the cycle of time. They programmed themselves to forget but started to remember until they reached the nebula where the signal activated them. But of course this is not an official report so he may have been bluffing.

But if Douglas were telling the truth, then anyone could be the final Cylon. Might even be Bill Adama. I'm saying this because in Razor flashback, the young Husker dipped his hand in the hybrid's tub of goo and saw images which may have been data streaming into his hard-drive.

He might also think he seeks redemption because he believes that he was the one who broke the armistice (the mission where Bulldog was captured) which led to the Cylon attack.

Ok, so now you have to remember...

Date: 2009-01-17 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djbuzzkill.livejournal.com
where you heard that interview now!! no wait, i dont wanna know...Arrgh!! the suspense is even worse than before!!!

I agree

Date: 2009-01-16 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've been hoping it'd be Kendra Shaw ever since I saw Razor; if for no other reason than to have her back on the show. She was one of the best characters they've had and I can only imagine, given the way RDM and Eick work and the way they raved about Stephanie Jacobsen, that they would want an excuse to work with her again.

Personally, I think Kendra Shaw would make the perfect final cylon. We already know her pretty well, but we're not so emotionally invested in her character that they risk jeopordizing our feelings for her. If the final cylon is one of the major four characters (Adama, Roslyn, Kara, or Lee) they would ruin that character's credibility. It may seem cool to make Adama some secret evil mastermind, but we wouldn't be able trust him after that. From a storytelling standpoint, that would be a bad idea.

Also, we have to know the character well enough that the revelation will have some impact, so minor characters like Hotdog or Seelix would be a disappointment. That brings us to secondary characters like Gaeta and Dualla. Those two are widely suspected to be the final cylon, but I think RDM and Eick have something better planned than some "and the final cylon is..." surprise. They already kinda did that with the four in the fleet. And I don't think they've sought to manipulate the audience through the course of the series. In fact, they like to give clues, albeit vague and often ambiguous ones.

I suspect the revelation of the final cylon won't be as big a deal as the advertisers have made it out to be. Rather, the final cylon will likely be revealed along with some major plot-line revelation that makes their identity as a cylon suddenly valueble to the story, and not just the surprise gimick it's been made out to be.

I think Kendra Shaw would not only make sense as a cylon, but she'd be one of the most satisfying options. Her character was very well received by the audience, the creators loved her, and she's mysterious enough that we wouldn't know if she's a good cylon or a bad cylon.

Also, consider this: Kendra rised through the ranks quickly, gained the trust and confidence of Admiral Cain, and ultimately became Lee's XO. Much like Tigh befriended Adama and became his go-to guy long ago. Tory managed to get herself a position as President Roslyn's assistant. Anders married Kara, who we know has a huge part in all this. And Tyrol married Cally, who gave birth to one of the two cylon/human crossbreeds. The male. The "Adam." So, the final five have all put themselves in position to be involved with the major players of the Pythian prophecy.

I think they set it all up right around the time of the first war with the cylons. They made themselves sleeper agents, left a beacon near that Nebula to switch them on at the appropriate time, and prepared to establish themselves in key positions among the humans; but were careful not to put themselves in positions of direct power... Only influence.

If it is Kendra, I bet she knows something very, very important.

Gods, I hope it's her!

One more thing - To shake up that counter-argument a little:
We know practically nothing about her family. That's as much a speculation as any about her being a cylon. It proves nothing. Kendra could have been adopted. Heck, since the final five age, her mother could have even been HER! Same model, different cylon; 30 years older. We just don't know.


Re: I agree

Date: 2009-01-17 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wyrdwritere.livejournal.com
Frak! It sure looks like I was wrong.

Still, they do like their twists on BSG, so maybe I will be vindicated in the end?

Nah, I didn't think so.

Спасибо за статью

Date: 2011-06-05 01:28 am (UTC)
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